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Beh, questa mi pare grossa.


Da: Landon Blake <[hidden email]>
Inviato il: Thu May 09 06:24:48 CEST 2013
A: Cameron Shorter <[hidden email]>
Cc: OSGeo Discussions <[hidden email]>, [hidden email], [hidden email], Craig Sandy <[hidden email]>
Oggetto: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [OSGeo-Standards] ESRI, please publicly share reasons for given for adopting the GeoServices REST API

Does the OGC still have any credibility as a transparent standards organization after this?

I'm very disappointed in ESRI and OGC based on what I've heard so far. Pretty hard to believe this is coming from the folks that first published the Shapefile specification that made a lot of open source GIS software practical. I guess that is what happens when there is a lot of short term profits on the line.

How short-sighted. I hope they change their mind.

Landon


On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 9:10 PM, Cameron Shorter <[hidden email]> wrote:
I have been notified that ESRI/OGC will not be sharing reasons for voting for the "GeoServices REST API" that has been sent to OGC voting members.

I'm disappointed that such information is being with held from public debate.


On 8/05/2013 4:51 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
Craig,
I understand that ESRI has been emailing some OGC voting members reasons for approving the GeoServices REST API.

I think it appropriate to have an open discussion, and hear both the pros and cons for adopting the GeoServices REST API.

Could you please share your comments on a public email list so that the community has an opportunity to hear the other side of the argument.



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Re: Fwd: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [OSGeo-Standards] ESRI, please publicly share reasons for given for adopting the GeoServices REST API

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On Thu, 09 May 2013 06:44:39 +0200
Paolo Cavallini <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Beh, questa mi pare grossa.

Per completezza aggiungo l'inizio della discussione:

http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2013-May/011602.html (e
successive)

e la pagina wiki dove stiamo raccogliendo i firmatari della lettera di
OSGeo contro l'adozione di Geoservices REST API come standard OGC:

http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Geoservices_REST_API

Passando all'azione: mi sono già aggiunta tra i firmatari, indicando di
essere socia GFOSS.it. Invito tutti a leggere la lettera e, se ritengono
opportuno, aggiungere commenti e firmare.

Volendo si può anche scrivere una lettera a nome di GFOSS.it,
indicando le ricadute a livello nazionale. Siccome di queste cose non
ho dimestichezza, chiederei a qualcuno/a dei più esperti di prendere
il testimone.


Anne

> -------- Messaggio originale --------
> Da: Landon Blake <[hidden email]>
> Inviato il: Thu May 09 06:24:48 CEST 2013
> A: Cameron Shorter <[hidden email]>
> Cc: OSGeo Discussions <[hidden email]>,
> [hidden email], [hidden email], Craig
> Sandy <[hidden email]> Oggetto: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss]
> [OSGeo-Standards] ESRI, please publicly share reasons for given for
> adopting the GeoServices REST API
>
> Does the OGC still have any credibility as a transparent standards
> organization after this?
>
> I'm very disappointed in ESRI and OGC based on what I've heard so far.
> Pretty hard to believe this is coming from the folks that first
> published the Shapefile specification that made a lot of open source
> GIS software practical. I guess that is what happens when there is a
> lot of short term profits on the line.
>
> How short-sighted. I hope they change their mind.
>
> Landon
>
>
> On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 9:10 PM, Cameron Shorter <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > I have been notified that ESRI/OGC will not be sharing reasons for
> > voting for the "GeoServices REST API" that has been sent to OGC
> > voting members.
> >
> > I'm disappointed that such information is being with held from
> > public debate.
> >
> >
> > On 8/05/2013 4:51 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
> >
> >> Craig,
> >> I understand that ESRI has been emailing some OGC voting members
> >> reasons for approving the GeoServices REST API.
> >>
> >> I think it appropriate to have an open discussion, and hear both
> >> the pros and cons for adopting the GeoServices REST API.
> >>
> >> Could you please share your comments on a public email list so
> >> that the community has an opportunity to hear the other side of
> >> the argument.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > --
> > Cameron Shorter
> > Software and Data Solutions Manager
> > Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050
> > Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254
> >
> > Think Globally, Fix Locally
> > Geospatial & Data Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open
> > Source http://www.lisasoft.com
> >
> >
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Re: Fwd: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [OSGeo-Standards] ESRI, please publicly share reasons for given for adopting the GeoServices REST API

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Il 09/05/2013 09:14, Anne Ghisla ha scritto:

> Volendo si può anche scrivere una lettera a nome di GFOSS.it,
> indicando le ricadute a livello nazionale. Siccome di queste cose non
> ho dimestichezza, chiederei a qualcuno/a dei più esperti di prendere
> il testimone.

Grazie mille Anne. Concordo, una presa di posizione mi pare opportuna. Non credo che
OGC si spaventi di fronte a questo, ma comunque mantenere una pressione puo' aiutare,
quantomeno sapranno di non poter fare queste operazioni "di nascosto".
Si procede?
Saluti.
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