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Salve.
Forse non e' chiaro a tutti, ma a causa delle leggi americane, i cittadini di Cuba,
Iran, Syria, Sudan, North Korea e Myanmar non possono partecipare al Google Summer of
Code. Non so se questo e' ancora valido anche per OSGeo, i cui server non erano
accessibili dagli stessi paesi.
Su queste discriminazioni ovviamente non sono d'accordo, e nel caso di OSGeo  credo
che una parolina dovremmo dirla.
Saluti.

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Oggetto: Re: [GSoC Mentors] Iranian mentors eligible to participate in GSoC 2013?

Hi there,

No. You'll see the Mentor Organization agreement [1] (also used as the Mentor
agreement) is quite clear that you cannot be a resident of Iran.

[1] –
http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/org_admin_agreement

Cheers,
Carol

On Apr 21, 2013 5:27 AM, "David Watson" <[hidden email]
<mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:

    Hi GSoC admins.

    I thought I'd post this question to the mentors list, on the off chance
    the answer was ever useful to someone else.

    As a US based 501c3 NPO, The Honeynet Project has a potential project
    idea were code was initially developed by Iranian and German members.
    The project to extend their existing work would be mentored by a German
    national in GSoC 2013, but the original Iranian developers would also
    like to provide technical support and unofficial backup mentoring
    support to an accepted student (as an Org we try to have multiple backup
    mentors for each project we select, in additional to the required
    official primary mentor).

    For GSoC 2013, Google are clear in the FAQs that:

    Iranian students cannot participate in GSoC

http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/help_page#4._Who_is_not_eligible_to_participate_as

    Iranian based organizations cannot participate in GSoC

http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/help_page#5._What_are_the_eligibility_requirements

    however, for mentors, the FAQs only say that Org representatives and
    mentors need to be 18+ years old this year:

http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/help_page#6._What_are_the_eligibility_requirements

    Can you please confirm that there is no nationality based limit for:

    1) Mentors (based on the unpaid individual's own nationality, not the Org)

    2) Unofficial secondary mentors internal to an Org

    Will should be able to offer this particularly project this year, since
    we should have a German primary mentor, but thought I should clarify the
    situation on unpaid Iranian mentor involvement before student
    applications open, just in case.

    Thanks,

    David

    --
    David Watson
    UK Honeynet Project
    www.ukhoneynet.org <http://www.ukhoneynet.org>
    [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>

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On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 07:15:55 +0200
Paolo Cavallini <[hidden email]> wrote:

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> Salve.
> Forse non e' chiaro a tutti, ma a causa delle leggi americane, i
> cittadini di Cuba, Iran, Syria, Sudan, North Korea e Myanmar non
> possono partecipare al Google Summer of Code. Non so se questo e'
> ancora valido anche per OSGeo, i cui server non erano accessibili
> dagli stessi paesi. Su queste discriminazioni ovviamente non sono
> d'accordo, e nel caso di OSGeo  credo che una parolina dovremmo dirla.
> Saluti.

Purtroppo la regola del GSoC è nota dal 2006, e i partecipanti di OSGeo
devono rispettarla. Si può pensare di organizzare un SoC parallelo
aperto a questi Paesi, se ci sono forze e fondi.

A settembre  scorso, avevo portato alla Board il problema di
accessibilità dei siti OSGeo da parte di Paesi sotto l'embargo degli
Stati Uniti. I membri della Board sono favorevoli a risolvere il
problema, e mi hanno rediretto al System Administration Committee.

Siccome non so come verificare l'accessibilità dei siti da parte dei
Paesi elencati, avevo iniziato a raccogliere un po' di documentazione,
e invitato gli interessati a partecipare.

http://gfoss-geographic-free-and-open-source-software-italian-mailing.3056002.n2.nabble.com/Da-OSGeo-Board-mirroring-dei-siti-OSGeo-td7579408.html

Finora non ho visto contributi nel titanpad o via mail. Appena
arriveranno, apro un ticket al SysAdmin Committee di OSGeo per
risolvere la questione.

Grazie!
Anne

> - -------- Messaggio originale --------
> Oggetto: Re: [GSoC Mentors] Iranian mentors eligible to
> participate in GSoC 2013?
>
> Hi there,
>
> No. You'll see the Mentor Organization agreement [1] (also used as
> the Mentor agreement) is quite clear that you cannot be a resident of
> Iran.
>
> [1] –
> http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/org_admin_agreement
>
> Cheers,
> Carol
>
> On Apr 21, 2013 5:27 AM, "David Watson" <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
>     Hi GSoC admins.
>
>     I thought I'd post this question to the mentors list, on the off
> chance the answer was ever useful to someone else.
>
>     As a US based 501c3 NPO, The Honeynet Project has a potential
> project idea were code was initially developed by Iranian and German
> members. The project to extend their existing work would be mentored
> by a German national in GSoC 2013, but the original Iranian
> developers would also like to provide technical support and
> unofficial backup mentoring support to an accepted student (as an Org
> we try to have multiple backup mentors for each project we select, in
> additional to the required official primary mentor).
>
>     For GSoC 2013, Google are clear in the FAQs that:
>
>     Iranian students cannot participate in GSoC
>
> http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/help_page#4._Who_is_not_eligible_to_participate_as
>
>     Iranian based organizations cannot participate in GSoC
>
> http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/help_page#5._What_are_the_eligibility_requirements
>
>     however, for mentors, the FAQs only say that Org representatives
> and mentors need to be 18+ years old this year:
>
> http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/help_page#6._What_are_the_eligibility_requirements
>
>     Can you please confirm that there is no nationality based limit
> for:
>
>     1) Mentors (based on the unpaid individual's own nationality, not
> the Org)
>
>     2) Unofficial secondary mentors internal to an Org
>
>     Will should be able to offer this particularly project this year,
> since we should have a German primary mentor, but thought I should
> clarify the situation on unpaid Iranian mentor involvement before
> student applications open, just in case.
>
>     Thanks,
>
>     David
>
>     --
>     David Watson
>     UK Honeynet Project
>     www.ukhoneynet.org <http://www.ukhoneynet.org>
>     [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
>
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