"Why ESRI is responsible for most of the bad topology in the world today"

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"Why ESRI is responsible for most of the bad topology in the world today"

Piergiorgio Cipriano
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As I try to learn more about this new wave of ArcGIS Pro I have been surfing the Internet and found this presentation on ArcGIS Pro.

http://proceedings.esri.com/library/userconf/proc14/tech-workshops/tw_724.pdf

What caught my eye was the statement that the first release of ArcGIS Pro will not have the ability to validate topology. For the old-timers reading this you probably used UNIX or Workstation ArcInfo and realize that you used to not be able to make topologically incorrect GIS data. With the release of ArcView the ability to validate topology disappeared and hence a lot of bad data was created by millions of users. My motto is I never trust any GIS data I get from any source and 5 times out of 10 when you validate it you find it is basically crap in a topological sense.

I got pretty excited with the release of ArcGIS 8.0 as ESRI released it with the ability to validate topology again. Wow this was great. But someone, not sure who, decided that the user would only get topology validation tools with the ArcEditor or ArcInfo versions and not the ArcGIS Desktop version. To me this was a pretty bad decision as it still lets users make bad data and there are more desktop users due to the cost of the software.

Now with the release of ArcGIS Pro 10.3 we have no topology tools at all. Sure, I bet a team of smart people at ESRI are working to add topology to the next release. But what really concerns me is that ArcGIS Pro will also have three levels of functionality. Based on previous experience, one would suspect that at the basic level you will not be able to validate topology again.

So if anyone from ESRI reads this I appeal to you to let all levels of ArcGIS Pro have the ability to validate topology. I would go so far as to say that it would be really cool that when a user tried to save their edits a big screen would pop-up and say, hey person, you have topology errors and you need to fix them. Just like the old ArcInfo would have done when you did clean and build.

I noted that QGIS has topology validation tools although I did read somewhere that if the data set is really big and topology really bad a user may have to use GRASS to clean up the mess. So maybe you need to learn then two different open source packages to be really sure about this. Just what a entry level GIS user needs to do to make good data all the time right.




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Re: "Why ESRI is responsible for most of the bad topology in the world today"

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On 2015-07-16 10:55, Piergiorgio Cipriano wrote:
> Interessante ...
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> https://www.linkedin.com/grp/post/49657-5937215053693480962 [1]

Molto, grazie!
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